[Pardus-devel] 2011 sürümü sona erdi / 201

[Richard de Bruin]

Hi Aaron,

I totally agree with your post.

Grtz,

Richard

2012/1/30 Aaron C Johnson <acjohnson at jordanschool.com>:
> Gökhan-
>
> I will give you some feedback from what I have gathered from several Pardus
> community members:
>
> Up until now the main Pardus distribution was Pardus 2007, 2008, 2009,
> 2011... Only recently did a Corporate release come about.
> Many users who have used Pardus have not and will not switch to Pardus
> Corporate 2 because it is not the same (mostly because of KDE 3.5 I
> believe).
>
> If TUBITAK is still interested in developing Pardus Corporate 2 (and later
> versions), and TUBITAK no longer has enough developers that can supports two
> separate distributions, why not give Pardus 2011.2 (and its successor) to
> the Pardus Community? (very similar to Fedora/Redhat or openSUSE/SUSE
> Enterprise)
>
> This would indeed require some cooperation with TUBITAK, but the community
> could be mainly responsible.
>
> The advantage to this is that we would not have to fork and change the name,
> we will still have Pardus 2012 to look forward to, plus all of the good that
> comes out of Pardus 2012 would go in to Corporate 2 (or Corporate 3) as
> TUBITAK sees fit.
>
> That is most likely what most community members would like to see happen
> before a real fork exists. This way Pardus is its own entity and it does not
> die.
>
> If TUBITAK agrees to something similar to this, the only issue is that now
> our current Pardus 2011.2 is completely unsupported! If users of Pardus
> 2011.2 are going to be expected to continue to use Pardus on in to the next
> version, then they will need to be supported until the next release of
> Pardus (community edition) is available.
>
>
>
> On 01/29/2012 11:33 AM, Gökhan Özbulak wrote:
>
> On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 17:18:44 +0100, Richard de Bruin <rr.debruin at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hello Gökhan,
>
>
> Hey Richard,
>
>
> Thank you for the comments your give here.
> But you also must understand how the community look at all of this.
> And sure, we all want the best for Pardus, but some people at TUBITAK
> are not really doing there best for Pardus. This is how i look at the whole
> situation.
>
> And the developers whole are left, and i think you are one of them, we like
> to
> help them. But if you want the power of the community, TUBITAK must also
> let the community in. Ask what the community want and what the community
> can give.
>
>
> Well, in this stage, it would be great to hear about what your
> idea/suggestion is
> about the future of Pardus. What makes Pardus better as a distro? Give us
> what you
> have and we then try to bring them up in the workshop.
>
>
> I can imagine that there maybe want something like Red Hat did before, make
> a kind of community Pardus edition (like Fedora).
> But the way the act right now not give any signal for this. Dropping
> developers
> not look like, yeah ... we want continue with Pardus.
>
> And end of march ... sorry .. we already wait for 4 months, and the
> first official
> mesaage we get was: Pardus 2011 is end of life. Why not also wait 2 months
> with
> the end of life message.
>
> But this message is allready getting to long. So tell me, does the
> people who are
> leading TUBITAK have any idea that they are destroying the juwel that they
> still
> have? Pardus is a special linux distrobution, that also can be use in
> a political way
> if they want. Special in this period where Europe talk about privacy, etc.
>
>
> I took a note about this, your comment should be really highlighted.
>
>
> So Gökhan tell us how we can help the developers that are left? But i
> think we are
> already to late, because to much developers allready left the project,
> or there must
> be some way to get them back.
>
>
> Our losses are unrevertible, i think, this is very sad really. Now on,
> the best think you can is to give feedback about how we can make Pardus
> alive/better. And we share your comments in the workshop if we can.
>
> --
> Gökhan Özbulak / go
> Pardus -- Tübitak/UEKAE
> http://www.pardus.org.tr/eng
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